“Traitor!”
Ok but I feel like this guy knew him and I want that story
Need to know the relationship between Finn, this stormtrooper, and the one that died in Finn’s arms.
I already read a fic that gave the dying trooper designation FN-2003. I need some fanon to fill in the gaps.
I think Finn made friends fast, boy had like six people shouting traitor at different points of the movie.
FN2187 was popular and his defection pierced the hearts of the entire fn troop
YOOOOOOOO I HAVE THE CANONICAL ANSWER FOR THIS AND I’M SEEING ALL THESE TR-8R POSTS I CANNOT STAY SILENT.
Greg Rucka’s Star Wars novel Before the Awakening is A) Quite good and B) Explains much about Finn’s stormtrooper training and social circle leading up to the movie.
In a nutshell:
- Finn was trained in a squad of four boys: Him (FN-2187), Nines, Zero and Slip.
- Nines and Zero have nicknames based on their alphanumerical designations (Zero’s is FN-2003, likely used by the ficcer mentioned above, Nines ended in 9s, etc.). Slip was called slip because he was a fuckup.
- Turns out, most troopers have nicknames
- Why does FN-2187 not have a nickname? Because nobody really likes him. An older trooper tells him straight to his face: he’s an outsider. It just happens to some troopers.
- Why is this extra tragic? Is it because Finn’s a shitty trooper? NO. He’s actually top of his little trooper class. He’s the fucking bomb, with a blaster, with tactics, with hand-to-hand weapons. Phasma’s got extremely high expectations for him. (what a fuckin mary sue amirite)
- So why is this actually extra tragic? What’s Phasma’s one problem with him? Finn cares too much. He cares about keeping his squad alive.
- He cares about going back for his friends more than the mission objective SOUND FAMILIAR?
- So Phasma tells him to stop coddling Slip or face consequences. He does.
And then: the skirmish on Jakku. A trooper dies and Finn loses his final shred of faith in the First Order. Who is that trooper? PROBABLY SLIP, IT REALLY SEEMS LIKE. Basically Finn’s brother, even if he never really fit in with his squad.
And then: the first thing Poe does is give him a nickname based on his alphanumerical designation JUST LIKE HIS TROOPER FAMILY, NINES AND ZERO AND SLIP, WHO NEVER LIKED HIM ENOUGH TO GIVE HIM ONE.
IN CONCLUSION the trooper in the gifset above who recognizes Finn on sight (and who has been meme-nicknamed TR-8R) is likely Zero or Nines.
IN CONCLUSION finn my bby D:
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OH MY GOD WHY THIS
I’m 90% sure it’s Nines based on their fucking brutal sparring match back on the Starkiller Base in the prequel novel.
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star wars characters + greek deities
We need a system where the politicians sit down and discuss the problem, agree what’s in the best interest of all the people, and then do it. That’s exactly what we do. The trouble is that people don’t always agree.
dear padme, that was a red flag right there
‘but luke and leia were supposed to be a couple and they made them siblings!!1!’
listen my guy… anh was created as a standalone film. there were never any plans to create another movie, let alone expand it into a trilogy. lucas kind of thought it was gonna bomb lol.
therefore, when esb went into production, there was no plan whatsoever, lucasfilm had a blank slate. they had room to do whatever they wanted–including making luke and leia related. but tfa was created as the introduction to a laid-out trilogy. rian johnson even collaborated with jj during the production of tfa to make sure that episode seven and eight would line up. everything that happened in tfa was put there knowing exactly where the story was headed.
case in point: stop using ‘bUt LUKe anD leIA!!111!’ to dismiss finnrey
thank u
lol if i never have to see that fucking terrible ass nonsensical argument again
luke/leia was not an intentional bait and switch. literally them being sibs was a retcon and esb was one million percent han/leia from moment one, much like tfa is one million percent finnrey, and if you somehow don’t see that it is because you are bad at watching movies.
furthermore there was pretty much nothing regarding romance in anh except for the expectation of luke/leia bcs of their narrative positions and han like winking at leia once.
so to try to take the super obviously romantic relationship between finn and rey that is the FUCKING EMOTIONAL CENTER of the entire FILM and say that not only is it going to be retconned for no reason bcs the original trilogy happened under completely and entirely different circumstances, but it’s equivalent to the negligible romance shit that was in anh is just
!?!?1/1?!?/1
you’re trying way too hard and you need to fucking stop
like fucking seriously STOP LOOKING FOR THE TWEEST like star wars as if obligated to have one
darth vader being luke and leia’s father is literally the only such twist in the history of star wars made entirely possible BECAUSE of the production circumstances of the original trilogy, i.e. unexpected success of a standalone film
star wars is not subtle. it never has been. stop pretending that they’re trying to make you ferret out obscure clues and deliberately mislead you with red herrings that take up an entire film just for the Surprise
it’s fucking silly
Star Wars cast on working with R2-D2
NERDS ALL OF THEM!
can we talk about how they’re all trolling themselves.
sam was born in DC in the 40′s as a minority in a white town, ewan used to be an alcoholic, hayden’s poking fun at his reputation as a bad actor & nat is remarking on her ‘pretty face.’
OMG THEY ARE.
WHAT.
let’s talk about poe dameron’s badass mom: shara bey
Shara Bey was a badass pilot in the Rebel Alliance.
Battle of Endor
- She was in Greed Squadron, and helped protect the Millennium Falcon as it made its way up to Death Star II.
- While up there, she helped take down ships trying escape its impending doom.
- Shara pursued an escaping Imperial Shuttle – only to have its pilot inform her that it was Luke Skywalker.
- And then she covered his ass so he could get away.
- Afterwards, for almost three weeks straight, Sara continued to pilot for every possible mission under the sun.
- So much so that a peer actually advised she take a lighter assignment as her next one.
- So, of course…
Naboo
- Shara was tasked to be the personal pilot for Leia on essentially a covert trip to Naboo.
- The Alliance needed Naboo to join the New Republic, but since Naboo was the Emperor’s native planet, they needed a low profile endeavor.
- So it was just the two of them, Shara and Leia, for the entire operation.
- They successfully made it, and while the Queen agreed to Leia’s offer, there was some serious trouble brewing across the planet.
- Operation: Cinder. The op was Palpatine throwing a fit of buttrage from beyond the grave.
- In the case of his death, the Empire was to make Naboo, and a bunch of other planets, uninhabitable. They launched some satellites that could cause some serious damage:
The [satellites were] then used to create hurricanes, and by the time it had reached twenty percent efficiency, three class-five hurricanes (with another dozen forming) had been made.
- Shara Bey, though, figured it out:
- That 1: there were satellites and
- 2: they needed to be scrambled, or everything was fucked.
- But– there’s no one that can fight. The Emperor demilitarized Naboo years ago.
- But the Queen remembered: there was still something left, in their hangers. Relics of an older time: from the Battle of Naboo, almost 40 years prior.
- Yes, the weird little banana ships that Anakin flew in The Phantom Menace:
N-1 starfighters.
- So: Shara flew one. So did the Queen. So did Leia. And do you know which of them was in charge? .
“I suggest Lieutenant Bey act as flight leader. She has the most experience of any of us.“
“I think that’s a very wise suggestion, Princess Leia.“
―Leia Organa and Queen Sosha Soruna
- Ok, that one was sort of obvious. But still: Shara led the ladies up into space so that they could save Naboo from imploding.
- Shara started taking out satellites left and right. Leia and the Queen watched her six, destroying the TIE fighters trying to stop her.
- In the end, they were outgunned and rescued by the Rebel Alliance who had learned of the op via intel– but not before they’d taken out all the necessary satellites by themselves.
The Final Mission
- Unfortunately– Operation: Cinder was not just a one planet thing.
- They fought this shit for months, and week after week Shara’s hopes dimmed a little more that the war would ever actually, truly end.
- Because she wanted a life. One with her son. One with her husband, Kes.
- He’d also fought in the battle of Endor as a ground soldier, and when serving, Poe stayed with him.
- They saw each other rarely, and sometimes only for hours after being away from each other for weeks.
- Kes has talked before about settling down somewhere, to raise Poe. He put in for his retirement, but she was on the fence. Her boss put in a request for her, and she objected– for now.
- And then… Luke Skywalker wanted her for a mission. The last twig of a force-sensitive tree. The same tree that had thrived in the Jedi Temple before the Emperor turned it into the Imperial Palace.
- (Which is a Big Deal, IMO. I think Luke was looking for this twig because it was going to be the symbolic start of his temple. A place to recreate that which had been destroyed– and he picked Shara, for this. To fly with him. To find this ancient, sacred thing.)
- Despite complications and having to fight their way through stormtroopers, etc, Luke and Shara found not one twig, but two, and make it out fine.
- They talk, some, about her choice between staying with the Rebel Alliance or working on her family. Luke counseled that “living for the future is worth living”.
- Taking the tree, and his advice, Shara retired from the Alliance. She’d earned it, after all.
Her Legacy
- After all this, Shara retired to Yavin 4, where she planted the force tree and established her new life.
- She didn’t tell Poe many wartime stories– although she did start taking him up in her ship when he was six years old, and started to teach him how to fly.
- Unfortunately, just two years after that, Shara passed away in sudden tragedy.
- Poe decided to continue in his mother’s footsteps, and became a pilot for the New Galactic Republic.
- After he joined, he looked into his mother’s records and found– with great joy and wonder– all of her heroism. Her achievements. Testimonies of her skill from fellow pilots, and how they’d been saved by one Shara Bey.
Shara Bey was a badass in her own right. She was a pilot, a strategist, a mother. If you want to read them, they are available in comic form, which most of this is sourced from:
Star Wars: Shattered Empire, Part I
As always, if I’ve misrepresented anything or gotten something incorrect, please drop me an ask and I will update it immediately!
so apparently while Padmé’s handmaidens were training in “handmaiden bootcamp”, Padmé went and joined in on the training pretending to be a handmaiden too to get to know the girls better, and then later revealed herself to actually be Queen Amidala
so basically“hi i’m padmé the radar technician”
BB-Callin’ Bullshit
Rey: He’s with the Resistance.
BB-8: *Looks Finn over*
BB-8: Bitch, I ain’t seen your ass on base.
BB-8: I would know.
BB-8: Poe would climb that like a tree.
Finn doesn’t balk at helping out, whether it’s passing tools to Rey in the Falcon or aiding Chewie with his injuries. Finn doesn’t talk over Rey or try to make choices for her. They may disagree and banter, but it’s not barbed, and it’s at an even keel. He looks out for himself, but not at the expense of others – when Finn decides to leave for the Outer Rim, he honestly tells Rey his story and how he feels about her, and asks her to come, and then accepts her refusal gracefully. He respects her decisions, her autonomy, and Rey as a person.
Obviously Finn digs this girl — who wouldn’t, she is undeniably The Coolest — and he does ask if she has a boyfriend early on, but after she says “None of your business,” he lets it go. When he could sulk or tease or be possessive or rude toward her, he doesn’t. He adores her, but is happy just to see Rey safe and well. He’s not preoccupied with romance or feeling “jilted,” where another character might resent her for it. When she hugs him on the Starkiller Base, he doesn’t turn lecherous or try to make a move. She owes him nothing, even when he risked his life to come to her aid, and he gets that! He’s not a White Knight, Friend-Zoned, or a Nice Guy. He never tries to “take” anything he wants when it comes to Rey. He doesn’t view her as a thing to take….
The parallels between Finn and Kylo Ren are the most direct (and stark) in terms of toxic masculinity. Finn seems to reject this toxicity, whereas Kylo Ren is constantly hung up on performing and proving himself strong enough. They are opposites: especially evidenced by the way they treat Rey – how they define themselves against the chief female presence of the movie.
Like Finn, Kylo Ren is also interested in and impressed by Rey. (And he also first meets her when she attacks him.) But instead of treating Rey like a person, Kylo acts out of aggression, objectification, and self-centeredness. He immediately immobilizes her, Force-faints her, and then carries her, bridal-style, to his ship: old-fashioned, exploitative, and gross. His language towards her is incredibly patronizing: “So this is the girl I’ve heard so much about…” He proceeds to insult her friends and threaten and torture her: violating her mind, using her as a tool but also relishing the show of his own power and the taking of something personal by force. “I can take what I want” is simultaneously a threat, a statement of power/entitlement, and a declaration of how Kylo fundamentally views Rey: an object, something controllable to serve his purposes. When the tables turn and Rey reads him, he is incredibly shaken by the subversion of his own authority and control, and when she escapes, he storms around looking for her in a blind rage, pursuing her with a weapon. Even as she’s beating him in the ensuing lightsaber battle, he has the gall to mansplain her own power to her: “YOU NEED A TEACHER!”
Resistance, Caring, and “Mask”ulinity: The Feminist Message of the Dudes in The Force Awakens
I love how this article is in direct contrast with the nonsensical idea that Kylo Ren somehow respects Rey as an equal while because Finn took her goddamn hand, he’s somehow the sexist one.
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