i got reminded that people in the mcu fandom still go hard for zemo and how he needs to be protected or whatever cinnamon roll shit and how his whole story is a narrative about us imperialism as if he’s not a serial murderer who headed a covert govt kill squad…………………………………….. like ok
You know who else “headed a covert government kill squad”? Steve Rogers. I mean, STRIKE is basically the MCU version of SEAL Team Six.
Zemo’s no cinnamon roll, but his story is fundamentally about the consequences of belligerent US imperialism (which creates a lot of terrorists in real life, too). So implying he’s a terrible person for serving his country’s military, when Steve Rogers has served his country in the exact same capacity, well… all I can say is that double standard is definitely in keeping with the themes of the film.
why the fuck are you reblogging my untagged post? are you physically incapable of minding your own business??
i want to actually respond to this, honestly, but the fact that you can’t leave me alone makes me choose not to. i would say stop creeping on me but you don’t have a choice once i block your ass
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People on tumblr not knowing how tumblr works and freaking out because someone responded to their posts. It’s like watching cats be scared by cucumbers. Amazing.
*There’s
gonna be white people in fandom who justify reducing T’Challa to a Sugar Daddy
and Vibranium dispenser for Steve and other Whites by saying “Well in the
comics, he designed the Quinjet for the Avengers so it’s totally
plausible…”. The way they twist and exploit T’Challa’s noble, kind
nature with stuff like “He’s a good, selfless guy so he’d do this!”
to shout down rightfully angry black fans is gross and tiring.
I’ve been preparing for this
– all of this – from the second that I first had confirmation that the Black Panther film
was in the works. One thing I don’t think most non-black members get is that
from the moment that a Black character gets introduced, Black fans start
worrying. They see “T’challa takes care of the Avengers” as a positive
because it’s what they want from him,
not bothering to look at the history of how Black characters and people have regularly been forced
into playing “nanny” positions for white characters and people.
So from the moment that I was
first told “Hey, just so you know, Black Panther will be a thing,” I knew that things would get bad. They would
get creepy. Fans would pant after T’challa’s BBC the way they did with every
single Black character ni fandom as if Black men are only
Because we’d already been
through fandom looking at Sam and seeing a psychologist, a secret HYDRA agent,
or someone who exists only to serve and protect the white Avengers because
they’re freaking TODDLERS.
We’d already been through
#NickFuryLies being a major point of characterization in the fandom despite the
fact that Nick is not even remotely required to spill his entire plans to the
kind of untrustworthy Avengers who had proven over multiple times that they
were incapable of being responsible.
We’d already seen how fandom
literally erased Rhodey from Tony’s life because Steve (who Tony doesn’t even like half the time) is somehow a better friend than the man that has been with
Tony for most of his life and who knows him better than he knows himself.
So really, Black fans knew that shit was going to get ugly when T’challa was officially introduced to the MCU.
And okay, I think a really huge sign that these T’challa
“fans” who are slotting him into the Sugar Daddy role for the
avengers really don’t understand anything about his characterization in any
film/show/comic he’s been in.
Like you said, they’re all
“he’s so kind and selfless so of
course he’d drop a couple billion bucks on making sure the Avengers have
the best toys” when part of what makes T’challa such a great character is
how flawed he can be.
He can be kind and is a king, but he’s also human. Which
means making mistakes and making decisions that are more selfish than selfless.
But fandom is too busy salivating over the idea that the richest man in the MCU
can now be at the beck and call of their white favorites to care that his actual personality isn’t a damn think like the Sugar Daddy they’re dead set on turning him into.
And let’s be very real here:
on no level in any universe has
T’challa ever flung money at the Avengers because it was “the right thing
to do” and he’s certainly not going to start here. Yeah, T’challa has
Bucky literally chilling in Wakanda, but that doesn’t mean that suddenly, the
country he and his ancestors have kept safe and secluded for centuries to
protect them from colonialization and whiteness is suddenly going to lay out
the welcome mat for the Avengers and their assorted family members.
Fandom doesn’t get that what
they’re doing is wrong with these AUs and the passive aggressive posts and the
super shitty characterization they slap on T’challa because they don’t want to
get it. They want to write their super racist, colonialism-worshiping AUs
without people calling them on their shit. They want to reduce Black men to
what’s between their legs without being criticized.
You know… because it’s just fandom.
That’s where you get the willful
“oh Black Panther is for everyone, stop segregating” bs you see every
time a Black fan brings up that Black Panther and T’challa have a special and
specific place in Black nerd history and hearts.
I don’t think non-Black fans
realize how important T’challa and Wakanda are to Black comic fans across the
diaspora and how Black fans are sick to death of fandom ’s fucked up
characterizations for Black characters, but they’re going to learn.
Virginia ‘Pepper’ Potts – genius, billionaire, playboy, and not quite a philanthropist. Tony Stark – her bright, young, and loyal PA, who somehow keeps her held together through the madness.
It bugs me that in Civil War, we know what the public thinks about Tony, but we have no idea what the public thinks about Steve. That’s where the Sokovia Accords plotline felt weakest, for me – the lack of public opinion, and how insular Steve’s story was as a result.
The film quickly filled us in on what Tony has been doing since AoU: that he’s mostly given up the suit and has become a philanthropist. He’s giving commencement speeches, working on his technology, and is handing out grants to MIT students. He’s also friendly with the government and is working alongside them as a prominent public figure. For the most part, people like him. Tony has worked hard to make people like him again, after Sokovia.
But we have no idea what the public thinks about Steve – especially since finding out that The Winter Soldier is Steve’s infamous WWII pal, Bucky Barnes. General Ross vaguely mentions that people think the Avengers are vigilantes, but we never see that directed at Steve. We never see people being angry at Steve, the media attacking him, or mobs screaming outside of the Avengers facility. We don’t see anyone except Tony and the government arguing that Bucky needs to be put down, either. We don’t see Steve in context like we do with Tony – he’s only seen in relation to Bucky (and Wanda) in the film.
In fact, with the exception of Wanda’s fireball, we don’t really see much public opinion at all. And when we’re dealing with an official government document drafted to control superheroes, I feel like the public’s opinion should have been more prominent, especially in regards to Steve’s side (…since it’s a Cap film). I would love to know how Americans feel about Steve now, after he attacked the ‘government’, destroyed Washington, and went rogue in CATWS. I’d love to know if they still see him as their symbol of honour, bravery, and sacrifice. Was his museum exhibit shut down? Is CNN debating if he’s out of touch with modern American ideals? What do they think about his relation to Bucky? And what does Steve think of the public’s opinion, if they no longer believe in his morals? Has he been involved with the public at all since AoU?
I need more info! I think that’s why Steve felt so subdued in this film – his plotline is very isolated compared to Tony’s, so the audience had little insight into what everyone in the MCU thinks about Captain America at this point in time. We had no frame of reference, and Steve felt very muted as a result.
…I don’t understand why people think Steve was emotionally compromised by Bucky (or “blinded by Bucky”) in Civil War. There’s no evidence of it in the plot.
Because, seriously:
Steve said no to the Accords before Bucky even appeared in the movie. His argument centred around how the Accords could exploit the Avengers. Bucky wasn’t even a factor at that point in time.
Steve was in Lagos to stop Rumlow from starting biological warfare. Yes, Rumlow distracted Steve by mentioning Bucky, but the audience knew Rumlow was going to set off the bomb the moment he told his soldiers that he wasn’t going to meet up with them. Steve’s love for Bucky had no involvement in the outcome of this scene. The battle had long begun, with civilian casualties already occurring.
When Natasha asked Steve to sign the Accords, Bucky still wasn’t in the picture and Steve still said no. There’s absolutely no evidence of emotional compromise, even though it’s Peggy’s funeral so you expect Steve to be emotional: he’s not fighting, or arguing, or trying to convince Natasha not to sign. He just says he can’t.
When Steve finds out Bucky is alive, he doesn’t dispute that Bucky bombed the U.N. He says to Natasha “If [Bucky]’s this far gone, I should be the one to bring him in, because I’m the least likely to die trying”. That’s not exactly a statement teeming with emotion. In fact, it’s pretty logical, since Steve broke the Soldier’s trance in CATWS.
Steve stops the government from trying to kill Bucky on sight, but does not stop them from arresting Bucky and doesn’t resist arrest himself. He even tells Bucky ‘this doesn’t have to end in a fight’ in the hopes of peaceful arrest, and shows up to save soldiers’ lives as much as Bucky’s. Steve’s not being difficult and he’s not fighting the government; instead, he asks about a lawyer as they take Bucky away. Emotionally compromised? Nah.
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