what TLJ probably meant: poor Kylo Ren look he had a reason to come into the Dark Side his own uncle tried to kill him :’((( it’s also all Luke’s fault, blame him, he gave up on Ben so easy!!
what I, an intellectual, learned form TLJ: if Luke “there is still good in you dad Vader” Skywalker takes one look at Ben Solo’s mind and thinks this one is irredeemable then well, shit, I absolutely believe him
Kylo: luke tried to kill me when I was just a child!
What Rey Should have Said: And if he had then you wouldn’t have DESTROYED MULTIPLE PLANETS
Kylo: …..
Rey: YOU SLAUGHTERED BILLIONS
Kylo: …….
Rey: YOU MURDERED CHILDREN WITH A LASER SWORD
Kylo: okay but Luke…tried to kill me…
Rey: Because he saw your future where you murdered children and blew up planets
Kylo: Okay but if I WAS DEAD that would be BAD for me personally
Rey: But good for the billions of innocent people who you brutally murdered
Kylo: But…bad…for me…
So
TRAGIC
Rey: I don’t think you understand how this “Sad Backstory” thing works
Not just that, but literally IMMEDIATELY after almost getting killed by Luke he goes and kills all of the other jedi-in-training who won’t follow him. His first action after almost being killed, because Luke thought he was going to be evil, was murdering people.
I still can’t find the logical connection here like why would that be your second step
A not-evil person would have like…called their parents or…the space cops. Not murdered everyone else in his school.
man, even a slightly smarter evil person would have called their parents or the space cops or something
like if you’re trying to neutralize a good guy, getting him thrown in space-jail for trying to murder his nephew is a pretty good tactic! causing a rift between Luke and Leia is a great plan! Fuck, you could maybe even set yourself up as the new head of the Jedi Order – or your shadowy puppet master could. Or cause a schism, Jedi love schisms.
But no instead you went off and murdered a bunch of children, and now your mom is not mad, just disappointed and also marshalling an army to defeat you, and your uncle is on a depression bender but crucially is not dead and thus also available to kick your pasty Sith ass. Leia’s got a handsome new son, your dad’s out there somewhere probably having adventures, and all your best ideas are cribbed from the Galactic Empire, which, sure it was in power for about 25 years, but they lost.
The Sith Lords of old are fucking shaking their heads at Kylo “Sith-Lite” Ren and probably also what’s-is-face, the guy in the gold robe. Like, somewhere in the afterlife, Palpatine is absolutely aghast that these are his successors. They couldn’t manipulate their way out of a paper bag!
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